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Working out.

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Nathan Addict 175 posts	Monday 21st February 2005 at 09:44 Just wondered whether any of you guys worked out at all. I used to go the gym but never saw any results and eventually got bored and gave up. I think this is mostly because I never knew the facts about working out and how to get the most out of it. I've been reading up on it a lot lately and am gonna take it up again. What sort of training would be best for BJJ? _____________________________
catsshoulddrinkwhiskey Newbie 5 posts	Friday 4th March 2005 at 22:49 depends what you wanna do.stronger?bigger muscles?stamina?i find rowing machines good for martial arts but i dont want to be particularly big.bjj probably burns loads so if your doing cardio stuff on top of thatmake sure you eat enough.abcbodybuilding.com is a little too specialised for me but it has a few tips
Tartarus Newbie 3 posts	Monday 7th March 2005 at 09:42 There is a fantastic book for those in your exact position. Before I took up martial arts, I was big into bodybuilding - good thing I got out of that when I did! But to make the transition I still felt the need to work out to supplement my training, but to enhance strength and speed rather than bulk and aesthetics. The book that I took almost all my advice from was "The Art Of Expressing The Human Body" - a book based on Bruce Lee's workout regimes charting his entire life. Though not written by him, it contains all his discoveries about working out with weights and keeping fit for the martial artist - I thouroughly recommend it if you can get it.
crazymofo55 Regular 41 posts	Monday 7th March 2005 at 22:34 I used to sit at the gym trying huge lifts and all it did was make it easier for well conditioned guys to knock me around. Those bulky muscles make you slow and take too much energy to maintain for an entire fight. This is why bodybuilders suck as fighters. Now I work at a warehouse lifting boxes 40-48 hours a week. I've noticed that every guy that starts feels weak and in pain for the first couple weeks. Even strong looking guys are tired. This is because those lifts are not like at a machine. They are bending weird, twisting, stepping on a pallete to reach the furthest box, turning the box to find the label, and throwing that 20-70 pounds around overhand, underhand, sideways, backways, you name it to get them on the line fast enough. Every little tiny muscle has to work to get the job done. Now it's like everything I had during weight training is gone. My arms are thin little toothpicks, but they are hard and snap punches like crazy. This is the type of muscle you want. Not really explosive throwing 200 pounds around in half a second, but taking 20 seconds to buck that guy on top of you and roll him on his back with your entire body so you can sit there an beat on him for the rest of the round. Strength in fighting comes from lean muscles with good endurance. This is why strong men are slow, tire out quick, and have no snap in their strikes. The only thing those bulky muscles do is give them an extra "punchers chance" at winning the fight while eliminating their hopes to go the distance to win. This was a difficult lesson for me to learn. To gain strength I'd try working with the heavy bag, medicine ball with a partner (for ground counters), different motions with free weights, situps to the front alternating knees, round and rounds, stair stepper, and leg lifts in circular and figure eight patterns. This requires almost no equipment. The stair stepper is just a simulation of running uphill so you wouldn't even need that.

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Addict

175 posts

Monday 21st February 2005 at 09:44

Just wondered whether any of you guys worked out at all. I used to go the gym but never saw any results and eventually got bored and gave up. I think this is mostly because I never knew the facts about working out and how to get the most out of it. I've been reading up on it a lot lately and am gonna take it up again. What sort of training would be best for BJJ?

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catsshoulddrinkwhiskey

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5 posts

Friday 4th March 2005 at 22:49

depends what you wanna do.stronger?bigger muscles?stamina?i find rowing machines good for martial arts but i dont want to be particularly big.bjj probably burns loads so if your doing cardio stuff on top of thatmake sure you eat enough.abcbodybuilding.com is a little too specialised for me but it has a few tips

Tartarus

Newbie

3 posts

Monday 7th March 2005 at 09:42

There is a fantastic book for those in your exact position. Before I took up martial arts, I was big into bodybuilding - good thing I got out of that when I did! But to make the transition I still felt the need to work out to supplement my training, but to enhance strength and speed rather than bulk and aesthetics. The book that I took almost all my advice from was "The Art Of Expressing The Human Body" - a book based on Bruce Lee's workout regimes charting his entire life. Though not written by him, it contains all his discoveries about working out with weights and keeping fit for the martial artist - I thouroughly recommend it if you can get it.

crazymofo55

Regular

41 posts

Monday 7th March 2005 at 22:34

I used to sit at the gym trying huge lifts and all it did was make it easier for well conditioned guys to knock me around. Those bulky muscles make you slow and take too much energy to maintain for an entire fight. This is why bodybuilders suck as fighters.
Now I work at a warehouse lifting boxes 40-48 hours a week. I've noticed that every guy that starts feels weak and in pain for the first couple weeks. Even strong looking guys are tired. This is because those lifts are not like at a machine. They are bending weird, twisting, stepping on a pallete to reach the furthest box, turning the box to find the label, and throwing that 20-70 pounds around overhand, underhand, sideways, backways, you name it to get them on the line fast enough. Every little tiny muscle has to work to get the job done.
Now it's like everything I had during weight training is gone. My arms are thin little toothpicks, but they are hard and snap punches like crazy. This is the type of muscle you want. Not really explosive throwing 200 pounds around in half a second, but taking 20 seconds to buck that guy on top of you and roll him on his back with your entire body so you can sit there an beat on him for the rest of the round. Strength in fighting comes from lean muscles with good endurance. This is why strong men are slow, tire out quick, and have no snap in their strikes. The only thing those bulky muscles do is give them an extra "punchers chance" at winning the fight while eliminating their hopes to go the distance to win. This was a difficult lesson for me to learn.
To gain strength I'd try working with the heavy bag, medicine ball with a partner (for ground counters), different motions with free weights, situps to the front alternating knees, round and rounds, stair stepper, and leg lifts in circular and figure eight patterns. This requires almost no equipment. The stair stepper is just a simulation of running uphill so you wouldn't even need that.