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sl Resident 855 posts
Robsco isn't the lionkiller just an RNC? or am i missing something?

:-D And can it really.. really... really.... like really... kill a lion?;-)
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Bren Addict 123 posts
I used to go lion hunting with a CLUB. :-O

It wasn't dangerous though, there were about two hundred of us and it was a rifle club. :-))

That's all a complete lie by the way.
Robsco 1319 posts
Aye, it's the same thing, but I think RNC is more a WWF name? Although the Lion Killer sounds much fancier in my opinion!

I'm surprised they're not the other way round :-))
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andy Resident 729 posts
RNC is the english translation of the japanese name for the choke
"no weapon formed against me shall prosper"
Robsco 1319 posts
What is the Japanese name for it?
The Admin Guy
andy Resident 729 posts
hadaka jime
"no weapon formed against me shall prosper"
Bren Addict 123 posts
Directly translated, hadaka jime means "naked strangle" or "naked choke" of which there must be loads. i.e. any choke or strangle that doesn't use the victim's gi or any other foreign object to throttle 'im.

Our lads have nicknamed the "Lion Killer" the "Gracie Choke" as the Gracies used it to such good effect in competition.
Monkey Balls Regular 44 posts
Your "lads" need to watch more non gracie fights.:-))
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andy Resident 729 posts
hence rear naked choke as it is done from the back
"no weapon formed against me shall prosper"
Trey Regular 49 posts
uh huh.... so its come to talking about choking naked people, or something to that effect?

and people call ME weird O_o
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Bren Addict 123 posts
:-))
Bren Addict 123 posts
Just had a look in my Japanese translation stuff I've downloaded,

(I know that makes me sound really nerdy/analy-retentive but after my last grading, where I was asked for the definitions of loads of japanese terms and looked like a complete fool when I didn't know the answers, I resolved to learn as many as I could)

"Ura" and "Ushiro" both mean back or rear - Any idea which you'd use for a choke Andy?

Just a thought -
My club still use a lot of japanese during training, do most BJJ dojos use English, Japanese or Portugese?
Robsco 1319 posts
A typical BJJ class is more like a family get-together compared to a traditional martial ats class - just to give you some idea.

Find one near to you, or go visit one further a-field, it'll be an experience I'm sure, plus, you'll love it. :-)
The Admin Guy
andy Resident 729 posts
?
"no weapon formed against me shall prosper"
Robsco 1319 posts
Confused?
The Admin Guy
andy Resident 729 posts
about your comment
"no weapon formed against me shall prosper"
Monkey Balls Regular 44 posts
it doesn't take much does it ?:-))
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Robsco 1319 posts
Well a BJJ class ain't very much like a traditional-traditional martial arts class is it?

Keep up son.
The Admin Guy
andy Resident 729 posts
what is a traditional martial arts class?

the reason we all got taught about standing in line and bowing is becuase the first westerners to learn martial arts were soldiers during world war 2 and thats the only way they could learn
"no weapon formed against me shall prosper"
Robsco 1319 posts
So before WWII in Japan, they didn't go through all the traditions and ettiquete?
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